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The Sinking Ship (Stockport)

The Swinging Sinking Ship was in Royal Oak Yard off Mersey Square South, Underbank, Stockport, Cheshire and opened in 1966 with Wimple Winch playing the opening night.

The owner of the club was Mike Carr (b. Michael Joseph Carr, c. 1941 d. March 1968, Stockport, Cheshire, England in a road traffic accident). His partner was Dave Robinson (b. David Robinson), who lost a leg in a car accident.

Carr owned a large coffee bar in Stockport, The Swinging Sinking Ship situated just off Mersey Square South, in Royal Oak Yard. The group The Just Four Men lived in a flat at the top of the building and the premises were turned into a music club, with the newly incarnated Wimple Winch (old English for 'deep well') as the resident group. Carr was involved as their new manager.

Before that Carr owned and ran The Medici Coffee Bar in Rochdale, Lancashire which opened in 1961; The Three Cellars in Newhey, Milnrow, Rochdale, Lancashire which opened in ca. 1964; The Tender Trap in Bacup, Lancashire which opened on Friday, February, 28, 1964; The Masque at 116 Chestergate, Brinksway, Stockport which he opened in 1965 and he ran with his mother Mrs. Renne Carr.

Carr had been to school with drummer Larry King (b. Lawrence Arendes, Tuesday, August 5, 1941, Dock Road, Huyton, Liverpool, Lancashire, England d. Tuesday, March 14, 2017, Aintree Hospital, Aintree, Liverpool, Merseyside, England). King was later in a number of bands including Wimple Winch (Early 1966 - Late 1967), which Carr managed.

He lived with his mother Mrs. Carr and his sister Miss Pat Carr lived in Dewhirst Road, Syke, Rochdale, Lancashire.

The Swinging Sinking Ship club's DJs were Paul Prince & Liz who got married in the club on Saturday, October 22, 1966.

Sadly, The Swinging Sinking Ship burned down on Thursday, April 6, 1967. Also sadly, Mike Carr died in a road traffic accident in March 1968 in Stockport, three months before he was to marry Miss Brenda-Marie Whitton.  

Info courtesy John H Warburg December 2024

The Sinking Ship Club was based in an entry in Underbank Stockport. I remember going there in about 1967. People used to go between here and the Tab. Micheal J carr owned the club and took the money on the door which had a round porthole window. He only had one leg due to a road accident.

Once there was a fire thee any he jumped from a three stoiry building with his pet dog. He eventually died years later in another road acciedent.

Jimmi Hendrix played there. Some tunes I remember were as follows:- New Girl in school-Jan and Dean, Al Capone-Prince Buster, Mellow yellow-Donovan, See saw-Don Covay

It was popular with the mods and scooter boys/girls. Part of the great times in Stockport. 

Bernard Roberts - 17/3/09

Set in Sandstone caves. Managed by one of The Four Just Men I beleive. Serious fire damage closed it, and almost caused the death of, I think his name was Demitrius. Images available, me playing with a band called Studio One.

Alan Thom - 27/8/10

Mike Carr was one of the nicest guys I had ever met ... he made a huge success of his coffee bar at a time when "mods" were looking for a place to go. 

Good music ... good company. Unfortunately he met an early death in a tragic motor accident - everyone was totally shocked! Wimple Winch - BRILLIANT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Mike was very much missed at the time.

Joanna - 16/11/10

Inside shot of The Sinking Ship (right) - 1966 I think, early 67. 

Myself, lead Alan Thom, brother Brian Thom drummer, Ken Ham bass and Rod Simons sax. We had previously toured as The Rod Simon Showband from that era, before going soul, jazz-rock almost prog.

Before we (I) knocked things on the head (life & marriage) the lineup extended to another baritone sax, trumpet and Hammond organ touring Manchester and beyond.

Alan Thom - 3/1/11

The cost to see Jimi Hendrix play was five shillings ... whilst Cat Stevens was seven and six. Most went to "Turners" for a drink.

Kitch - 15/10/11

Worked with Mike at Simon engineering, he used to drive me to see the ship being developed at dinner times in his open topped MG. Memories!!!

Dave Garnett - 29/5/12

Remember going to see Long John Baldry playing there with Julie Driscoll They called themselves The Steam Packet I think. It got so warm dancing in that sandstone cave that water condensed on the roof and you would get rained on. The girls danced around their handbags. It was a fabulous time for the Mods on our scooters I bought my first blue pinstrip suit from Burtons. I think I paid £8.00 for it about 1966/67.

Shaun Hallworth - 25/8/12

Michael Joseph Carr was my fiance, he died in March 1968 and we were due to be married in June the same year. The guy who had only one leg was not Michael, but his partner, Dave Robinson - he lost his leg in a car accident.

Brenda-Marie Costello - 1/12/13

Michael Carr, owner of the Sinking Ship was my fiance. He did not take money on the door, works for Symonds or have only one leg - that was his partner, Dave Robinson. 

Brenda-Marie Whittam Costello - 30/12/13
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Wesley Harding
2 years ago
I was born in 1969 so unfortunately I missed out on seeing Hendrix and all the other acts that were either massive at the time, or became legends later on. The Sinking Ship did have a second (again, unfortunately short) life in the late '80s and possibly into the early '90s. certain rare herbs and designer chemicals have had an adverse effect on my memory and my recall of when certain things happened. Anyway, I digress. I can't remember the first time I went, or who took me, but we knew it as Pulse and it was a kind of cross between a nightclub and a youth/arts centre (I think I've made it sound a bit wanky, but it was anything but). I couldn't believe that there was an old industrial building (that's how it looked to me anyway) down a dingy alleyway off Underbank In Stockport town centre (I grew up in Stockport so knew the town centre well (or so I thought). I remember going in through the slightly dingy, nondescript front room then being totally blown away by the fact that the back wall (which was the red sandstone cliff of Underbank, had been burrowed into, God knows when, and was basically a cave!!! I thought it was one of the coolest places I'd ever been to ( I'm quite embarrassed to admit that I knew nothing of it's History. or that Hendrix had played there (despite being a massive Hendrix fan!). Bands used to play in "the cave" pretty regularly. Nobody big, just local bands (including my own, which I'm not revealing the name of as it's way too embarrassing!) A guy called Kev Bazell (A relative of Playschool musician Ben Bazell, which he was never allowed to live down!) Used to put on a monthly (I think, but could be wrong) night called The Trout Farm. Kev was on the Madchester vibe and the music mostly reflected it (unless the decks got hijacked, which wasn't unknown!) Kev was a decent guy but I used to have a real issue with him putting signs on the door saying NO HIPPIES! And have quite big arguments with him about it, saying "whatever your personal feelings are towards hippies. It's discrimination! Pure and simple! He never seemed to take my point so I just used to tear down the signs when he wasn't looking! Twat! I remember going most weekends for about a year, maybe longer (you always knew you'd been to Pulse as when you scratched your head the next day, you got loads of sand under your fingernails! I don't know why it closed down that second time, but it was probably to do with money. It was just open one night and closed the next. It's a crying shame as it was such a unique venue and cool hangout. I'd have loved to have seen it in it's '60's heyday. But unless anyone has got a time travelling Lambretta out there, I'm scuppered! I'd even get on the back of a Vespa if it could bend spacetime and take me back to '66/'67 (It'd have to be a GS though) Only messing all you scooterists out there. Just having a laugh. There's a video on YouTube of what the building looks like now. It's some kind of barbers and hairdressers school/college and you have to open a secret door like Mt Ben (if you're still reading, you know damn well who Mr Ben is!) and the "cave area" where the bands used to play, is not visible from the barbers, is full of cobwebs hanging down and used for storage, with stacks of tins of paint and other DIY stuff. I'm Not an overly sentimental bloke but I don't mind admitting it brought a tear to my eye and put me on a right bummer the rest of the day. What a total waste of a unique space! What can you do though eh? At least it hasn't been demolished like loads of other historical places!
 Well, that's my experience of The Sinking Ship, or Pulse, as we called it. I'm Not a big Joni Mitchell fan. But she nailed it when she sang "Don't it always seem to go that you don't know what you've got till it's gone! They paved paradise and put up a parking lot!"

Peace and good vibes to the lot of you.

Wes Harding.
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Douglas Lucas
3 years ago
RIP OLD PAL
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Douglas Lucas
3 years ago
Doug Lucas  I was Mike's Doorman at the Mask on Chestergate and very good friends with The Wimple Wynch, Many happy .memories including elastic band fights with Larry and the lads
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James Parkin, James20Parkin@gm
3 years ago
The Sinking Ship was a great club as was The Tabernacle Club, people went between the both of them even though the TAB became more of a soul venue. Would love to communicate with Michael's fiance from the day as she would have some more insight memories.
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Chuck
3 years ago
Hey Carol Connor - you out there? Thinking ‘bout ya and Christie S and Paulie Williams!
 
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John
3 years ago
The Ship burnt down on 6th April 1967……
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Mike Conboy
3 years ago
Don't remember any of the big timers apart from Jimi Hendrix, it was mainly a Tamla / stax disco sound going on there. I remember a guy called 'Nutty Norman' who was an amazing dancer, I thought I was a real cool dancer, unfortunately time has revealed that I was an un-cordinated 'dad dancer'. As Linda pointed out she didn't see Diana Ross there - if any of us did I think we might have imbibed in LSD and imagined it. I always wonder what happened to Harry Hooper, Jennifer Brady and Carol Conner. I was last there on New Years eve 1968. Mike Carr was a lovely guy who didn't patronise younger people, he left us before his time. All best wishes to all the Masquers' and Shippers', long may you run. Mike C.
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Nadine Facer
4 years ago
My dad was in aunt Nellie's concoction!! 
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Linda
4 years ago
I was at the Ship when Jimi played. I don't remember seeing Diana Ross though. I met my first crush there Paul Thatcher; he was in a band called Aunt Nellie's Concoction (ANC).  I loved the Tabernacle too. Actually braved myself to dance above the stage there once. Great memories. 
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Granvllle Sellars
4 years ago
Was a regular at The Sinking Ship.
Convinced Mike had a much smaller 'club' the other side of the viaduct
Used to go down there from Macclesfield on our scooters for a couple of years until The Ship moved to larger premises off Underbank.
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