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Dragoons (Oldham)

Line-up included

  • Les Kershaw - drums
  • Billy Lees - guitar
  • Peter Priest - guitar
  • Trevor Fogarty aka Terry Ford - guitar
  • Ken Jones - piano
  • Norman Pennington - drums
  • Joe Kilroy - guitar
  • Larry Goddard (piano)

I have at last managed to find a photograph of the Dragoons, courtesy of Alan Jones, younger brother of Ken.

The photo was taken at Christmas 1960 at the Royal Oak pub Rhodes Bank, Oldham. The lineup from left to right,

Norman Pennington, Drums.
Billy Lees, Rhythm Guitar.
Joe Kilroy, Lead Guitar.
Ken Jones, Piano.

I am sorry to report that Joe Kilroy recently passed away.

Bert Ashton - 24/3/09

Original line up was Les Kershaw on drums, Billy Lees on guitar, Peter Priest on guitar and Trevor Fogarty (Terry Ford, same guy on guitar ) around 1960.

They split and a new line up emerged of Ken Jones on piano, Billy Lees on bass, Norman Pennington on drums and me on lead guitar. This line up lasted a long time until Ken Jones left and we became a trio with me and Billy doing vocals. (I remember Keith Cooper doing a leopard skin routine as a guest). No comment.

Later Billy and I joined up with Mick Swift and Tony Manton and became the Tony Manton Set. I then left and worked the clubs with Terry Ford as "The Terry Ford Duo " He died in a car accident. I had joined a band called Frank Yonco and the Texas Drifters by then and did a couple of years with them backing american country singers on tour.

Geoff Walker never played with The Dragoons to the best of my knowledge but did play with Ian Fisher and Ken Jones as the Ken Jones Trio.

Ken Jones had a brother called Allan who was a talented pianist/vocalist who often helped out. 

No photos available. Ex-wife disposed of them. 

Joe Kilroy

I used the lads in 1963 as my backing as Dee and the D's.

Keith Cooper

Keith Cooper, if I remember right, had his own group in the year 1963, namely Dee & the D's. I was the bass player. The routine that Joe Kilroy mention's "I go ape" (a number recorded by Neil Sedaka) we did many times at our gigs and it always went down well.

I left the group to join The Four Just Men who were Ian Fisher (lead guitar), Johnny Kirkam (drums), Trever Fogerty (lead singer) and my self (bass). Does any one remember?

Terry Liversidge

I remember Billy Lees, Mick Swift and Joe Kilroy. We played at the Oldham Hotel for quite a while, then we went to the Royal Oak.

They were great musos and we packed the places where we worked. Llots of good memories.. happy days.

I just heard that Billy has died. He will be sadly missed (see below).

I'm now living in Spain and still do a few gigs here but when I return to the UK I am always working as Jasper Jones, now doing comedy vocals but I really miss the group scene.

Well done to everyone involed in creating manchesterbeat.

Tony Manton

I was reading the history about The Dragoons and at the end of the page I noticed that someone said Billy Lees had passed away ! ! So after reading this infomation, I telephoned him and told him I'm very sorry to have to be the one to tell you this ." You are dead " 

I can tell everyone concerned, that Billy is still alive and kicking. I should now I'm married to his daughter Linda.

p.s. He is as still as tough as ever when it come's to getting the beer in!

Geoff Woods  - 28/1/12

Last time I saw Ken Jones (about 1983/84) just outside St Ives, Cornwall in a little hamlet called Cripplesease, putting the ladders back on the roofrack of his van! Presume he was still doing the painting and decorating job.

Charles Widdall - 30/10/13

It was fascinating to discover your website and mention of the Dragoons, a group I was pianist in during 1960 after we took on the groups name when the original left the ‘Royal Oak’ public house. I tried to upload a photo of our line up but I do not have permission. Can anything be done about this? 

Larry Goddard (pianist) - 28/3/2020
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KEN JONES
7 months ago
Quoting Mick swift:
Mick swift remembers those times with very fond memories
Went to see tony manton with alan warburton just  before he passed away
Still in touch with alan dave and roger

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Mick swift
4 years ago
Mick swift remembers those times with very fond memories
Went to see tony manton with alan warburton just  before he passed away
Still in touch with alan dave and roger
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Paul Stevens
6 years ago
Yes, i remember Johnny Kirkham(excellent drummer)who was with Pete Taylor and The Javelins just before i replaced Pete Taylor as vocalist.Next time that i saw Johnny Kirkham he was with Pete Brooks in The Nashville Men at Rochdale Champness Hall when we supported The Hollies in 1962.Ken Jones used to play Rock n Roll piano at Mambo Club(above Burtons)in Rochdale and then seasons in Blackppol(Duttons Arms).He was followed by a good mate of mine,Brad Newman from Oldham who played lots of pubs in Rochdale and always asked me to get up and sing with him.Great talent and another good guy too!R.I.P. Brad Newman Best Wishes and Long Live Rock n Roll,Paul Stevens  www.caddielegend.mysite.com +61 417776102


Quoting Paul Stevens:
Great memories! Friday nights in Oldham were the ultimate! More pubs than anywhere and music in almost every one of them!Best night out in the World,and that,s from a Rochdale lad too!In the late 50,s/early 60s,before i came into the business,i used to ask The Dragoons if i could get up and sing a couple of songs with them and they always let me.That was downstairs in The Royal Oak and i would then go upstairs and Tony Manton would always ask me to get up and sing a few songs with him and his group.Great experience for me and i then started getting paid 9 pounds a week(7 nights!)at pubs such as Top Drum;The Market Tavern and The Albion(upstairs),Alan and Benny were on downstairs! Other venues were Oldham Hotel and The Magnet.Wonderful memories! Good mates were Gordon Leach and The Diablos(before Venn Tracey)and The Waterloo.Regards Paul Stevens  www.craftweb.org/web/paulstevens


Quoting Larry Goddard:
I forgot to mention that when we took over the Dragoons name on moving to the Royal Oak, the line up was Mick Swift (drums), Bill Lees (guitar), Joe Kilroy (guitar) and Lawrie Goddard (piano). I do not recall Joe playing with the Dragoons prior to that because he was in the group under our earlier name, the Embassy Rockers, at the Salisbury Hotel, Mumps. Ken Jones must have played piano with the Dragoons after I left.....I lost touch for a while after getting married. Joe K. and I had been pals since we were 13 yrs old and it was he who insisted I play piano in his place when he decided to emulate Hank Marvin. The line-up above came to my wedding in 1961 and Mick S. was my bestman.
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Paul Stevens
6 years ago
Great memories! Friday nights in Oldham were the ultimate! More pubs than anywhere and music in almost every one of them!Best night out in the World,and that,s from a Rochdale lad too!In the late 50,s/early 60s,before i came into the business,i used to ask The Dragoons if i could get up and sing a couple of songs with them and they always let me.That was downstairs in The Royal Oak and i would then go upstairs and Tony Manton would always ask me to get up and sing a few songs with him and his group.Great experience for me and i then started getting paid 9 pounds a week(7 nights!)at pubs such as Top Drum;The Market Tavern and The Albion(upstairs),Alan and Benny were on downstairs! Other venues were Oldham Hotel and The Magnet.Wonderful memories! Good mates were Gordon Leach and The Diablos(before Venn Tracey)and The Waterloo.Regards Paul Stevens  www.craftweb.org/web/paulstevens


Quoting Larry Goddard:
I forgot to mention that when we took over the Dragoons name on moving to the Royal Oak, the line up was Mick Swift (drums), Bill Lees (guitar), Joe Kilroy (guitar) and Lawrie Goddard (piano). I do not recall Joe playing with the Dragoons prior to that because he was in the group under our earlier name, the Embassy Rockers, at the Salisbury Hotel, Mumps. Ken Jones must have played piano with the Dragoons after I left.....I lost touch for a while after getting married. Joe K. and I had been pals since we were 13 yrs old and it was he who insisted I play piano in his place when he decided to emulate Hank Marvin. The line-up above came to my wedding in 1961 and Mick S. was my bestman.
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Larry Goddard
7 years ago
I forgot to mention that when we took over the Dragoons name on moving to the Royal Oak, the line up was Mick Swift (drums), Bill Lees (guitar), Joe Kilroy (guitar) and Lawrie Goddard (piano). I do not recall Joe playing with the Dragoons prior to that because he was in the group under our earlier name, the Embassy Rockers, at the Salisbury Hotel, Mumps. Ken Jones must have played piano with the Dragoons after I left.....I lost touch for a while after getting married. Joe K. and I had been pals since we were 13 yrs old and it was he who insisted I play piano in his place when he decided to emulate Hank Marvin. The line-up above came to my wedding in 1961 and Mick S. was my bestman.
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Larry Goddard
7 years ago
When the Dragoons disbanded circa 1960, we took on the name and moved to the 'Royal Oak'. Sadly our singer was ditched in the process and we got Bill Lees instead. I was pianist at the time and left the band around August 1960.

Lawrie Goddard (which is how I was known in Oldham).
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